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martin172
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Steering Rack

Post by martin172 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:04 pm

Just started having a look at my steering rack.

When it's moved from side to side it has a lumpy action about it.
Is this normal and if not any suggestions as to why?

I've had a good look at it and all seems ok and I've had a look at the damper pad and that looks fine.

Any ideas?

Mal
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Post by Mal » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:30 am

Martin,
With my limited experience I would say the lumpy feeling would be quite normal if you were just pulling it through by the track rods.

Did it have oil in it ?. Does the damper pad look to be made of the same metal as mine ?.

Cheers Mal
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Post by martin172 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:12 pm

Hi Mal,

The lumpy feeling was from turning the shaft that the steering column connects to.

There wasn't any oil in it when I did this.
Yes, the damper is the same as yours but it hasn't started to collapse inside.

As you have set the precedent I will make a vid to show what I mean.

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Post by Mal » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:22 am

Martin,

I have my rack at the gear cutters who did the work for me. The engineer there has bushed the pinion end as I suggested. He is going to make a new slipper pad out of bronze. This is his email to me.

Hi Malcolm

I have some bronze in stock, so I'll get one made up and that'll finish it for you.

The bush is fitted now and I managed to get a new spring so that'll be sorted sometime later today, and once the slipper is finished you should be on the road again.

I reckon that rack should have had a bush in there from the start, because it feels so much more positive, and the slipper then just has to take care of any play in the bushes which I think anyway looks like a safer arrangement.

I'm not sure if I'll get it finished in time to get it away to you today, but if not then early next week.

Regards

Bob


I don't know if using the standard Tiger rack you could have room for a bush at the pinion end with the steering on full lock. With the way we have done mine we do.


I will post some pic's when I get it back.
Mal
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Post by martin172 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:53 pm

Look forward to those pics.

I will get that vid done so people can see what I have but things keep getting in the way.

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Post by martin172 » Sun May 05, 2013 10:18 pm

Finally got around to it.

This one (hopefully) shows how knotchy the movement of the rack is.

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..shows the slipper thingy.

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..and the side of the rack it sits on.

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I had a good look at it today and I'm completely baffled.
I can't see anything wrong with it but it is knotchy.

I don't fancy buying a new rack if I can sort this one out and they aren't cheap either.
Any ideas?

Any idea of who could help?
Anyone know of any rack repairers?

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Post by Mal » Mon May 06, 2013 6:51 am

Martin

If all the teeth look as good as the teeth in the pic and the slipper pad is in good condition, I would re-lube it, shim it correctly and fit it. I think it will always feel a bit knotchy just moving it by hand.

Do you have your gear box out at the moment. My speedo is not working and I think the drive gear that the cable engages is missing. Likt to see a pic of what I need to find or get.

Cheers Mal
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Post by martin172 » Mon May 06, 2013 11:19 am

You're probably right Mal. Suck it and see.

Is this what you meant?

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I never took mine out so if you have a big hole, this is what you are looking for.

HTH.

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Post by Mal » Mon May 06, 2013 7:58 pm

Thanks Martin, I will check to see what's there. If it's not I wonder where I have put it. :?
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Post by martin172 » Tue May 07, 2013 10:08 pm

Reshimmed and relubed it.

If anything it's now even worse. :lol:

I'm not sure if tigers set fire to themselves or if it's owners who have just had enough.

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Post by garyv8tiger » Thu May 09, 2013 10:14 pm

buy a kit off dean and put an mg rack on it much better than a tiger .fit power steering while your at it

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Post by martin172 » Fri May 10, 2013 11:37 am

garyv8tiger wrote:buy a kit off dean and put an mg rack on it much better than a tiger .fit power steering while your at it
Funnily enough, that thought has crossed my mind, athough not with the power steering or does the different ratio make it a real pita without it?

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Post by garyv8tiger » Fri May 10, 2013 11:38 pm

the mg rack is a big improvement on its own i ran it for a bit before fitting the power steering .the power steering is great for parking and getting in and out the drive i turn it right down when im on motorway ect .

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Post by Mal » Sat May 11, 2013 6:13 am

garyv8tiger wrote:the mg rack is a big improvement on its own i ran it for a bit before fitting the power steering .the power steering is great for parking and getting in and out the drive i turn it right down when im on motorway ect .
Gary, did you fit one of the electric under dash power assit units ?.

Turned right down how do you find it ?.

Cheers
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