Oil filter Question

martin172 · Post by **martin172** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:29 am

I wondered why do some Tigers have a block mounted oil filter and some have a remote mounted one and are there any advantages/disadvantages of the 2 set ups?

Thanks.

michael-king · Post by **michael-king** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:19 am

All tigers came wit the remote setup where the filter is mounted high up the front of the engine. People switch to the later to rid theselves of the plumbing, they use the small ford right angle black adaptor. The other mod is to run the lines into the ront guard and mount the filter in the front wheel arch

Some people might do it for an easier less messy change, some to run a different style of filter and maybe some for fear of what happened with the rally cars.. if it drops it can puncture, though cant remember anyone reporting this happening on a road car.

gtsmrt · Post by **gtsmrt** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:03 am

Hi Martin,

The 90 degree adapters work very well unless your Tiger has aftermarket headers which restricts its use. Another option is a shorter oil filter and screw it directly to the block (I was talking to another Tiger owner today who told me about a Tiger sized (same diameter) filter but just shorter used in Mazda's). I don't know how they suit a particular filter to an engine, but installing a smaller filter rings alarm bells to me (probably no issues arise from a smaller filter, but I wouldn't risk it myself). Personally I don't like the filters in the wheel arch as it could lead to possible damage (your choice though).

Regards, Robin.

martin172 · Post by **martin172** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:32 pm

The reason I asked was because the filter on mine screws staright into the block and is about 2 inches long.
It does strike me a small for an engine of it's size.

michael-king · Post by **michael-king** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:06 pm

martin172 wrote:The reason I asked was because the filter on mine screws staright into the block and is about 2 inches long.
It does strike me a small for an engine of it's size.

martin are you running headers? if not there are a few K&N, Fram and FOMOCO ones that work.. i believe the ford one is actually one of the best ones.

Mal · Post by **Mal** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:22 am

Martin.

My Tiger had one of those tiny filters screwed directly to the block. Near imposible to buy a new one here and I think they are to small. I used a 90deg adapter from Ford and you still need to use a shorter filter.
I have read a lot of bad comments on Fram filters. People losing engines. There race filters are supposed to be still good.

V8 burble · Post by **V8 burble** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:46 pm

The filters referred to by Mal are known in the States as the OCOD, orange can of death. I leave you to draw your own conclusions.
Apart from David Brown's special filters at:
http://www.v8filters.co.uk/
have a look at these comprehensive tests on cheaper and more easily obtainable filters:

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfil ... rence.html

Recommendations:
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfil ... nions.html

It would seem that you cannot go too far wrong with WIX 51515 (Napa 1515) or Motorcraft FL1A and one or two others.

Going back to martin172's original question, in my opinion it is better to use a full size, original design filter if possible. After all, we are talking about a 5 litre engine, not a 1.5. The small filters seem to be okay provided that they are changed on a regular basis.
With or without headers it is difficult to find room to mount a remote full sized filter inside the engine bay.
I put the remote filter under the left-hand front wing, just behind the headlight. There is little chance of it or the hoses being damaged, but you can always fit additional rubber or plastic protection if you prefer.

To do the job you will need the following (or similar) parts:

Oil filter 90 deg adapter:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TRD-1413/

Remote oil filter bracket:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TRD-1045/

Fittings: 1/2 in. NPT Male to 5/8 in. Hose Barb
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/GAR-J9003/

(I think Real Steel do some cheap barbs).

Oil hose: 5/8 inch ID plus 4 jubilee clips/hose clamps.

There is no need to use the expensive Goodridge-type braided hose and fittings, but if you prefer those then get them. The (cheaper) barb to hose fit is so tight that there will be no leaks even without using any jubilee clips/hose clamps (this piece of info came from no less a source than than Goodridge themselves many years ago).

This is a good place for all kinds of hoses and fittings:
http://www.hoseworld.com/index.html

If required you can also include an oil cooler and thermostat with the remote filter system. The basic remote system will naturally run a little cooler than standard because of the filter's location and the additional hose runs.

martin172 · Post by **martin172** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:25 pm

Sounds like more expense then.

These cars are money pits lol.

V8 burble · Post by **V8 burble** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:39 pm

That's about the size of it!

garyv8tiger · Post by **garyv8tiger** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:44 pm

martin172 wrote:Sounds like more expense then.

These cars are money pits lol.

tiger is latin for expense, tigers have big mouths

martin172 · Post by **martin172** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:01 pm

garyv8tiger wrote:
martin172 wrote:Sounds like more expense then.

These cars are money pits lol.
tiger is latin for expense, tigers have big mouths

Lol.
Let's just keep this between us shall we guys.
If Lisa finds out she will go nuts lol.

Twin Turbo Tiger · Post by **Twin Turbo Tiger** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:43 pm

I've ran the NAPA Gold filter 1335
Took the pan off a couple of weeks of go and checked the bearings everything look good buttoned it back up.

Car gets alot of street miles put on it, also drag racing.