Weber carbs for SBF
Weber carbs for SBF
For anyone who wants to go completely mad on their Tiger and wants to install Weber carbs - you must agree with me they do look "blingy"
They are now available for the Small Block Ford in various guises from Webcon, here's the Co link: http://www.webcon.co.uk/ I have (as yet!) no dealings with the company so it's not a recommendation
http://www.webcon.co.uk/weber/USPerformanceKits.htm
Dare not ask how much......
They are now available for the Small Block Ford in various guises from Webcon, here's the Co link: http://www.webcon.co.uk/ I have (as yet!) no dealings with the company so it's not a recommendation
http://www.webcon.co.uk/weber/USPerformanceKits.htm
Dare not ask how much......
DHLA
Webcon are ok, good service, but not cheap, i can recommend them.
I prefer DHLA's to DCOE's, the range of jets, etc.. is slightly better.
Still that set up does look rather nice, i'd say about £2K+ by the time you buy filters, stacks, linkages etc..
I prefer DHLA's to DCOE's, the range of jets, etc.. is slightly better.
Still that set up does look rather nice, i'd say about £2K+ by the time you buy filters, stacks, linkages etc..
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The problem with webers on a Tiger is you have to cut the scuttle to fit them in as they interfere with the leading edge to much to find any work around, on some 2 x 4BBL seups you can get away with out cutting the scuttle, but thenagain.. they aint webers!
Brad, you said you prefer the DHLA to DCOEs, i gather you are reffering to the Dellorto vs Weber side draft setups.. for the down drafts you use IDA and IDF webers, not DCOE's... so its a little different.
As a side note.. it is hard to beat the look of webers.. be it side or down draft, those exposed trumpets and bodies just look the buisness.. a 4BBl with a velocity stack can look ok.. but they are just not in the same league!
Shamless promo pic of my alpine motor:
Brad, you said you prefer the DHLA to DCOEs, i gather you are reffering to the Dellorto vs Weber side draft setups.. for the down drafts you use IDA and IDF webers, not DCOE's... so its a little different.
As a side note.. it is hard to beat the look of webers.. be it side or down draft, those exposed trumpets and bodies just look the buisness.. a 4BBl with a velocity stack can look ok.. but they are just not in the same league!
Shamless promo pic of my alpine motor:
Re: Weber carbs for SBF
Hi Tony,Tomaselli wrote:For anyone who wants to go completely mad on their Tiger and wants to install Weber carbs - you must agree with me they do look "blingy"
They are now available for the Small Block Ford in various guises from Webcon, here's the Co link: http://www.webcon.co.uk/ I have (as yet!) no dealings with the company so it's not a recommendation
http://www.webcon.co.uk/weber/USPerformanceKits.htm
Dare not ask how much......
I didn't think you were allowed to post pornographic images on the forum?
Robin O'Dell
Tiger MK 1a
ENJOYING THE EXPERIENCE AS DAD WOULD HAVE
Tiger MK 1a
ENJOYING THE EXPERIENCE AS DAD WOULD HAVE
Slight correction there guys, these are 48 IDA's not 44 IDF's which are the more "streetable" set up and easier to keep in tune.
This is the set up that will be on my car when finished, although i have 50 IDA's which look identicle.
Also if you look at this kit they are the modern Spanish made weber as opposed to the Italian one's which are more sought after and period correct.
And again this kit mount's the carbs back to back where as the 60's Cobra's and GT40's faced each other, i was very lucky to pick up a genuine GT40 magnesium manifold with twin water oiutlets for my car but trying to find the original throttle linkage was a nightmare, as was the period fuel harness.
Happily all sorted now.
Everythings now with the engine builder, will post some piccy's of the whole thing when built, should look very blingy indeed.
Question..... At what time did Ford start painting there SMF's blue? i'm convinced it was mid 65? earlier than that they were black?
Reason being as my cars an early 64 i want the engine Black......engine builder wants it Blue.
This is the set up that will be on my car when finished, although i have 50 IDA's which look identicle.
Also if you look at this kit they are the modern Spanish made weber as opposed to the Italian one's which are more sought after and period correct.
And again this kit mount's the carbs back to back where as the 60's Cobra's and GT40's faced each other, i was very lucky to pick up a genuine GT40 magnesium manifold with twin water oiutlets for my car but trying to find the original throttle linkage was a nightmare, as was the period fuel harness.
Happily all sorted now.
Everythings now with the engine builder, will post some piccy's of the whole thing when built, should look very blingy indeed.
Question..... At what time did Ford start painting there SMF's blue? i'm convinced it was mid 65? earlier than that they were black?
Reason being as my cars an early 64 i want the engine Black......engine builder wants it Blue.
Please make sure that you post some pictures of your engine... I would very much like to see it. I'm not sure when ford changed their engine to blue (I would suspect 64 some time, but I believe all the Tiger engines were Blue (would have to confer with the B.O.N). If you want it black, just do it... your choiceRed Race Tiger wrote:Slight correction there guys, these are 48 IDA's not 44 IDF's which are the more "streetable" set up and easier to keep in tune.
This is the set up that will be on my car when finished, although i have 50 IDA's which look identicle.
Also if you look at this kit they are the modern Spanish made weber as opposed to the Italian one's which are more sought after and period correct.
And again this kit mount's the carbs back to back where as the 60's Cobra's and GT40's faced each other, i was very lucky to pick up a genuine GT40 magnesium manifold with twin water oiutlets for my car but trying to find the original throttle linkage was a nightmare, as was the period fuel harness.
Happily all sorted now.
Everythings now with the engine builder, will post some piccy's of the whole thing when built, should look very blingy indeed.
Question..... At what time did Ford start painting there SMF's blue? i'm convinced it was mid 65? earlier than that they were black?
Reason being as my cars an early 64 i want the engine Black......engine builder wants it Blue.
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Red Race Tiger, while brad said IDF, in my earlier post i was said that the carbs on the DD setups use either IDA or IDF.Red Race Tiger wrote:Slight correction there guys, these are 48 IDA's not 44 IDF's which are the more "streetable" set up and easier to keep in tune.
i was very lucky to pick up a genuine GT40 magnesium manifold with twin water oiutlets for my car but trying to find the original throttle linkage was a nightmare, as was the period fuel harness.
At what time did Ford start painting there SMF's blue?
As for your manifold which manufacturer is yours? Is it one of the ones that has the carbs staggered? If so i assume that would require a bit of extra cutting on the scuttle... will you be bracing it? Are you going to be holding the bonnet with pins?
as for block colour on the Tigers, Ron Fraser did some reserach into this:
All 260 and 289 engines were painted black through the 1965 model
year; in Aug 1965, the 1966 model year, Ford changed the color of the
engines to blue. The B19KC engine group crosses both model years. The
spring build was in the 1965 model year and painted black. The fall build
was in the 1966 model year and painted blue.
The B19KC group of engines is the only group that can be a problem
to determine its color. The early B19KC engines are black, the later B19KC engines are blue.
TBON states Black for the block color.
Bob Mannel's Book states Satin (semi-gloss) Black.
So if you are running a 6 bolt 289 its gogin to be blue.. 5 bolt 260 or 289 likely to be black.
Just to add a bit to Michael's last post to help Bristish Tiger owners around engine number dates. Ford build dates for the later batches of 260's are:
S6KA = 06-10-64 (UK date format)
S27KA = 27-10-64
F21KA = 21-12-64
B19KC = 19-02-65
B19KC engines were only installed in MKIA's and only a handful of late MKIA's (police mainly) were released to the UK market. So 98% + of HROFE MK1 & MK1A machines should have 'black' blocks.
Graham
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S6KA = 06-10-64 (UK date format)
S27KA = 27-10-64
F21KA = 21-12-64
B19KC = 19-02-65
B19KC engines were only installed in MKIA's and only a handful of late MKIA's (police mainly) were released to the UK market. So 98% + of HROFE MK1 & MK1A machines should have 'black' blocks.
Graham
STOC Editor
Here's the problem,
As some of you on here will know i'm building a replica of my fathers ex works rally car which was destroyed back in 71
The car back then was a full blown Modsports race car with all the tricky bits of that erea, the engine was known to have been a full works Ex Paul Hawkins GT40 Holman Moody engine.
Trouble is would that engine have been a 5 bolt engine? ie Black or a 6 Bolt and Blue? I know it's just an engine but i want it like the rest of the car period correct.
The Block for my engine is an Boss M6010, with screw in core plugs.
And yes the scuttle is cut away exactly as the Fraser Tiger page 151 in the making of a sports car book, this i presume is also how my fathers car would have been.
To answer Micheal the inlet maifold is a genuine NOS twin water outlet magnesium GT40 item, Made by FORD
The engine is now in the final stages of build ( it's been apart and rebuilt three times to get it 110% perfect) before it goes on Peter Knights dyno in Daventry, personaly i cant wait to see it fire up and see to those weber's coughin and spittin......
Brings back memories as a kid, Dad's race Tiger frieghtened the cr#p out've me with it's open unsilenced exhaust's under the door's. Loud.....
And i will of course post some images when the engine's done.
Like the rest of the car doing the research is half the battle and then finding the right peaple to make the stuff is a battle again, but i will get there.
Hoping to campaign the car in the newly re-formed series for period Modsports - Modsaloons of the 60's > 70's and 80's
Long way to go with the car yet, lot's of items still to find and have made but a very worthwhile project.
As some of you on here will know i'm building a replica of my fathers ex works rally car which was destroyed back in 71
The car back then was a full blown Modsports race car with all the tricky bits of that erea, the engine was known to have been a full works Ex Paul Hawkins GT40 Holman Moody engine.
Trouble is would that engine have been a 5 bolt engine? ie Black or a 6 Bolt and Blue? I know it's just an engine but i want it like the rest of the car period correct.
The Block for my engine is an Boss M6010, with screw in core plugs.
And yes the scuttle is cut away exactly as the Fraser Tiger page 151 in the making of a sports car book, this i presume is also how my fathers car would have been.
To answer Micheal the inlet maifold is a genuine NOS twin water outlet magnesium GT40 item, Made by FORD
The engine is now in the final stages of build ( it's been apart and rebuilt three times to get it 110% perfect) before it goes on Peter Knights dyno in Daventry, personaly i cant wait to see it fire up and see to those weber's coughin and spittin......
Brings back memories as a kid, Dad's race Tiger frieghtened the cr#p out've me with it's open unsilenced exhaust's under the door's. Loud.....
And i will of course post some images when the engine's done.
Like the rest of the car doing the research is half the battle and then finding the right peaple to make the stuff is a battle again, but i will get there.
Hoping to campaign the car in the newly re-formed series for period Modsports - Modsaloons of the 60's > 70's and 80's
Long way to go with the car yet, lot's of items still to find and have made but a very worthwhile project.