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Rolling Road Dyno Day - John Sleath, Doncaster
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:49 pm
by garyv8tiger
i dont know if anyone is interested but tomasellie and myself use a guy in doncaster john-sleath.com for tuning,i,m trying to get a group together for a dyno day, john is based in doncaster ,take a look at his website not sure how to do working links ,i,m sure tony will edit this post and put in a working link
he can do either straight power pulls (3) he said he could do about 15 cars , at £40 per car .
or a tuners day that would give you an hour on the dyno and he would change jets ect to give the best performance or or mpg whichever suits
this costs £70 per hour plus any parts used ,
if anyone is interested drop me a message ,i havnt secured any dates just wanted to see how many where interested ,
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:29 am
by Tomaselli
Highly recommend John Sleath, it's a rare thing finding an engine builder/tuner who knows how to use a Dyno rolling road correctly.
Needless to say, he has customers all over the UK who freight their cars (including historic race cars) to his setup.
He only real speciality is American V8's which is no bad thing for us
His website:
http://john-sleath.com/
His own personal car is a battered old Audi 80 with some ole' big block Chevy in;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npSQ3yZ4NVs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXsTOnbM ... re=related
I had mixed feelings about rolling roads when my local "tuning specialist" couldn't really do anything with my Tiger and left pretty much disappointed, the following was a printout from that meet;
I then found John Sleath who found me another 100bhp within 2 hrs on the Dyno messing with plugs/timing/power valves and jets on the Holley carb - oh he put on a decent coil and that was about it
Put my name down for a trip Gary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_fEfCVOfj4&t=51s

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:37 pm
by michael-king
Tony,
Given both are dynodynamics dynos, so assume both the same setup and twin roller system, and despite the different graphics they both seem to say standard shootout spec (which IIRC is no HP corrections for air temps etc) i am surprised at the different resylts. While the higher one they may have tuned your dizzy, car and general adjustments.. the difference seems enromous.
Are you sure the fist reading was not RWP and the second one FWHP? I find it hard to believe the RWHP could have been that low before (car would have been running like a dog to be that down on power). However 371 at the fly would be around 300 at the wheels on a twin roller.. so with some tweaking on jets etc.. that would make sense.
The red MKII is a 347 alloy head roller motor right? What heads and what cam is it running?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:52 pm
by bigbob
Its noticable that the 1st run power tailed off at 4000 revs, whereas the 2nd run power kept rising. Looks like you were under-carbed or weak on the 1st run which was sorted on 2nd.
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:25 pm
by garyv8tiger
oh and the dates wrong tony it was 2009 you went
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:55 pm
by Tomaselli
michael-king wrote:I find it hard to believe the RWHP could have been that low before (car would have been running like a dog to be that down on power
Indeed it was low on power, had all the right components/ancillaries - just needed somebody to connect it all together.
Actually, John Sleath commented that the last time he found an extra 100hp for a customer, they stuffed it in a hedge and "wrote" the car off on the way home from the rolling road session

It's certainly lively now with the extra HP
michael-king wrote:What heads and what cam is it running?
Have no idea, it was actually a "blind" purchase off eBay. The engine came out of a TVR Griffith.
bigbob wrote:you were under-carbed or weak on the 1st run which was sorted on 2nd.
Exactly, despite having a 750cfm carb the first time, I was running with a "street" 650HP the second time - it was all down to the correct jets and powervalve settings. You cannot just install a carb out of the box - I thought you could!
garyv8tiger wrote:oh and the dates wrong tony it was 2009 you went
That was the first run with the local guy, in all fairness he only really wanted to plug something in as he was used to Japanese Impreza and Evo's
Agree Gary, trip to John Sleath for a "Tiger" day out would be in order - must be plenty of Tiger owners needing a "tweak"

So who else is up for it

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:54 am
by michael-king
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:14 am
by michael-king
Tony,
Was looking at the graphs again and the second one says flywheel power.. you sure the first one was not showing RWHP? The readouts i got liek that were RWHP, which is usual setting for a shootout run. I know that would be down a little but 260RWHp would be around 320ish FWHP... what was the RWHP of the run where you pulled 371?.. if the first is RWHP i'm tipping you picked up about 40-50HP
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:18 am
by Tomaselli
michael-king wrote:I can see the progression...
Just tell Mrs K that what we do is "Research & Development" and we are continuing with the progress in technology that is only now available to us since Rootes stopped in the sixties

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:34 am
by gtsmrt
Hi Tony,
What a great outcome for 70 pounds and some nice usable horsepower. Dyno days are always great fun.
Regards, Robin.
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:41 am
by dpuzey
Count me in please. Only running a 260 with a few mods.
Dave
Rolling Road Day
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:49 am
by Mstowe
Hi Gary,
I'd be interested in the trip to Doncaster. I have put the car on a RR previously but the problem seems to be in finding someone who knows about Holleys & who has a few jets so changes can be made. Sounds like you have found the man. Let me know.
Cheers,
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:54 am
by gtsmrt
dpuzey wrote:Count me in please. Only running a 260 with a few mods.
Dave
It's always interesting to see what a few little mods can do. It also gives a good indicator of how healthy your engine is. What mods have you done?
Re: Rolling Road Day
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:12 pm
by garyv8tiger
Mstowe wrote:Hi Gary,
I'd be interested in the trip to Doncaster. I have put the car on a RR previously but the problem seems to be in finding someone who knows about Holleys & who has a few jets so changes can be made. Sounds like you have found the man. Let me know.
Cheers,
hi martin sleath has all the bits u will need ,i spent about 8k on a new engine carb ect when i gpt the car back it ran like a bag of shi-- in 2 hours he changed coil plugs and jets and i came away with a big grin on my face ,tony and myself will be looking at a few dates which we will try and get to suit everyone ,
sorry and you dave we will be in touch
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:33 am
by dpuzey
Briefly my 260 cu. in. has a Ebelbrock 500 4 barrel carb, Comp Cams Xtreme Energy (31-324-3) cam, 1.785" inlet valves & 1.465" exhaust valves, screw in rocker studs. The heads had some work done on the ports together with the manifolds. The pistons are from JE and give a 9.7:1 compression ratio. Still has cast iron exhaust manifolds and a 'Tiger' air cleaner.