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Post by Red Race Tiger » Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:24 pm

Can i have a go?

Ist Mk 1300 Escort Van, loads of fun....and room :oops: .
Mk1 2000 V4 Capri
Mk1 1968 Lotus Twin Cam Escort Paid £250 for it on 1980 when i was 19. Oil leaks and unreleliable but where is she now though i wonder?
Mk1 3.0 GXL Granada
Mk1 3.0E Capri
Mk1 2.6 RS Capri LHD (fibre glass doors and plastic windows) Fun car but nobody knew what it was. and again wonder where is she is now?
BMW 3.0CS
BMW 3.0CSL ( Lightweight and lively in the wet)
Numerous RS 2000's both MK1 & 2's They were as cheep as chips back then......but look at the price of them now?
One of my all time fav's was the very 1st car i bought brand new,
Mk3 3.0S Capri, KTM 735V
I spent fortunes on that car, had her "X" Packed arched, Niel Brown Grp1 engine with triple weber carbs on top of the V6 It was a monster Capri.
As a road car at the time i was running a 2.8i Seirra XR4i (Someone had to)
But it's day's were numbered when my all time favourite car was released and what turned out to be the 2nd new car that i ever owned.
D440 UNK 3dr Sierra Cosworthin gorgeous diamond white.
Later i also was also lucky enough to own a genuine RS500 again in white and one of only 49 ever made by Tickford..... Where is she now i wonder??
Scorpio 2.9 Cosworth Estate (Family by then)
My first Sunbeam Tiger which i bought back from Germany 28yrs after leaving the UK. Works Rally Tiger AHP 293B.
Ex Andy Rouse RS 500 Touring car ( Never ending pit of money)
Land Rover 300 ES Discovery ( The slowest thing iv'e ever owned)
BMW 3.2 Evo SMG M3 Wow, what a monster of a car, enough torque to pull a house down and one i look back on with fondness and huge affection.
M5, Compared to the M3, too big and heavy i thought.
64 Sunbeam Tiger
59 Alpine Both under restoration.....

And finally the apple of my eye is Lucy.....my 54 plate 4.2lt XKR convertible. Lucy as in Juicy Lucy, not the cheepest car to run if your in a hurry but just the nicest car to look at from any angle in my opinion.


That's me done, and thank you for allowing me to ramble on down my lanes of memoies. :D

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Post by paulw » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:04 am

Hi mine starts in 1977 here goes

ford corsair 2000e
triumph toledo
ford anglia
mk 2 cortina 1600 gt
mk 3 cortina
mk2 escort
vauxhall victor
vauxhall 2.3 gls
mk1 fiesta
vauxhall cavalier mk 1
ford granada fast back mk 1 same as the sweeny one
vw golf mk 1 gti had 3 of these
vw caddy pick up best of the lot this one
vw golf gti 16v had 3 of these
mitsubishi pajero 2.8
rover 218 d very good car still in use had it 10 years like a van now
ford fusion
sunbeam tiger mk1a
ford fusion

last four all in use thats it not to interesting

paul

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Post by Tomaselli » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:14 am

Red Race Tiger wrote:lucky enough to own a genuine RS500 again
You seen the price of them of late........ :shock:

....BMW 3.0 CSL is a rare bird also 8)

Red Race Tiger

Post by Red Race Tiger » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:00 am

Yes i have had some rare bids....cars as well :oops:

We can all look back and say "If only i'd have kept that" the TC Escort, the RS500 the CSL but to be fair did any of us know what we had back then? and that also in time prices for what were then "daily cars" would go through the roof.
I look back and consider myself then at such a young age to have been very lucky indeed to have owned them......

I have been an avid fan of the Tiger, Cobra, Falcon and Mustang, in fact anything with a SBF i guess and it's good to see that at last the Tiger's begining to realise it's own value.

Long my it be so. :shock:

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Post by V Mad » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:49 am

Was there a Tiger GT? Was it a one-off?
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Post by gtsmrt » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:49 am

V Mad wrote:Was there a Tiger GT? Was it a one-off?
Hi Chris,

Yes there were some GT Tiger's and apparently fifteen were built. I know of one in the US and that's about it.

Regards, Robin.
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Post by michael-king » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:25 pm

CHris,

Very early on they offered the Tiger in GT configuaratio as per alpine, carpets, wooden dash/wheel, interior light, GT door panels and top rolls and the Gt rear setup without softtop. At this point the early tigers as stock had the vynil dash, sports interior (plan door cards mats etc) as tiger production refined they switched to a 1/2 GT spec on interior (wood dash/wheel and carpets) then when the late cross over body cars came out before MKIA they went to GT door top rolls and cards etc..

there are still a few GT's left, if you go to the rootes1 website norm lists a few and the untimely demise of one that was burnt out.
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Post by gvickery » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:11 pm

The GT Tiger

Here is an old article I wrote for Cats Whiskers about the GT Tiger.

http://www.sunbeamtiger.co.uk/Galleries ... _Tiger.pdf

All production GT's went to the USA and to my knowledge none have come back. There are though a couple of 'AF' [Alpine Ford]
development GT Tigers here in Blighty. One of these 'AF' Tigers is B9470010 - the last development vehicle prior to production starting.

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Post by michael-king » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:04 pm

Graham,

I not that the GT tiger in your pics has knock on hubs.. with splined minilites.. was that added by the owner later? Or was this the car that had wires at the factory and supposedly shreaded them?
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Post by gvickery » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:38 pm

Yes, the factory vendor sold it in 1967 with 13" Alpine wires + knock on hubs! The 1st owner told me he gave up after having the wires rebuilt twice and fitted J A Pearce mags. It is thought this 'Tiger' was used for brake tests among other things and then retained by Jensen's Planning Dept (for evaluating service fault reports). Can't imagaine how those wires could have survived through the production period!! The image below is believed to be of the car when first back at Ryton (note bumpers still wrapped).It's missing exhaust pipes and the body height is wrong - maybe engineless at the time!!
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Post by michael-king » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:27 pm

Its funny rootes got so frightened by wires.. it came down to their cost cutting. The alpine wires dont carry many spokes, if they had upgarded the wires to say, MGC or Healey spec they probably would have been fine.. or at more costs E-type/aston standrda wheels.. maybe it was cost, maybe they just didnt want to have wires on them?
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Post by gtsmrt » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:03 am

Thanks for the article Graham. It was an unusual idea to have a non-removable hardtop, but I think is was more the cost of the Tiger (as pointed out in the article) that didn't make it viable. By having a fixed hardtop, you loose part of the character/practicality of the Alpine/Tiger.

Regards, Robin.
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Post by Tomaselli » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:32 am

michael-king wrote:maybe they just didnt want to have wires on them?
I've always wondered that too, and as you say there are many other more powerful exotics (Ferrari in particular that come to mind) who wore wire wheels. As you say a correct strengthened set would be possible, though you'd need deep pockets to speak to Signore Borrani for a set 8)

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Post by michael-king » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:58 pm

Tomaselli wrote:
michael-king wrote:maybe they just didnt want to have wires on them?
I've always wondered that too, and as you say there are many other more powerful exotics (Ferrari in particular that come to mind) who wore wire wheels. As you say a correct strengthened set would be possible, though you'd need deep pockets to speak to Signore Borrani for a set 8)
There is a tiger in germany (black mKII IIRC) that has 15" boranis on, look to be tripple laced stainless tapered spoke alloy rim version (big $) but a set of 72 spoke dunlops would have worked fine on a stock tiger.

The alpines ran a lower spoke count than other brit cars (and when i had spoke wheels i used to break spokes when conering and that was on 155 tyres!) so no surprise a tiger with more weight and more torque broke them..

I guess they figured that people would not pay more for the stronger wires and maybe the price would have made them closer to e-types vettes etc... what was the price difference i wonder for alloys vs wires at the time.. and with the alloys you know there are no waranty claims and less maintenece, while we all love our tigers now the development history indicates they were very consious of the price point compared to healets, jags and other sports cars.. hence the reason they never offered the 4 disc and IRS on the cars (well in theory the discs were a comp option)
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Post by JoJoTiger » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:17 pm

First of all nice picture Graham of your GT - with mine behind I believe - at Brooklands.
Here's my list since 1979:
1965 Mk2 Ford Cortina
1972 Mk3 Ford Cortina 2000GT
1976 Triumph Dolomite Sprint - an absolute stunner in all rspects.
1975 Triumph Dolomite Sprint
1978 Mk4 Ford Cortina
1980 Triumph TR7 - a great car - don't believe all that bad press!
1985 Ford Fiesta XR2 (Mk2 & my first brand new car!)
1990 Vauxhall Cavalier SRi
1985 Jaguar XJ6
1987 Ford Fiesta XR2
1985 Range Rover
1990 Range Rover
1993 Range Rover
1999 Ford Mondeo ST24
1965 Sunbeam Tiger Mk1 (acquired 2001 and still with me)
1992 Nissan Micra (still with me)
1998 Jaguar XKR (sadly no longer with me)
plus 8 Company cars in there somewhere from 1992 to 2001!
Happy days!

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