Mal wrote:meadowhog wrote:If were talking the process, at what point does a door become a Tiger door, or for that matter any panel. I just remembered Oh a door doesnt count, or a bonnet or a boot or a front wing or a rear wing, or sills, or floors, or front valance or rear valance or cruxiform or A posts or in one case? the whole rear end or the rad mount. TAC and both sides of the arguement have agreed that.
So that just about leaves the bulk head, trans tunnel and front wheel arches.
Ergo As long as youve got the paperwork and those 3 parts in one piece youve got a Tiger.
Then when you want to rebuild that Tiger it would be better and more authentic to use Pressed Steel Panels than post production replicas. It would also be better to have those parts already welded together by the same person that would have welded your old Tiger together.
I realise that one of your main concerns is the cross over from when a resto becomes a rebody.
I talked to my panel man and he feels the core stucture of the car needs to be there. ie Firewall, A pillers . floor pan chassis rails , boot floor, rear guards, front inner guards. Not all have to be complete and some will need to be restored or replaced. From what source is up to the restorer.
A rebuild around a firewall is not a restore. He also raised his eye brows on the cut and weld rear end of the MK11. As for the replacement of a radiator mount, it is a panel which probably replaced commonly through accident.
Thanks Mal
I agree that what your panel man identifies as the core of the car as he describes. Where it starts to get grey for me is when, and as Ive seen, and theres plenty of pics on places like Dales site, that show a lot of these parts removed repaired and replaced. Once removed the proof that it ever belonged to the original shell is lost.
Could you ask him, when restoring a car thats considerably worse than yours, what would be left if you cut out all/every bit of rot in one go. I realise for shell stability you wouldnt do it all in one go but the end resultant work would be the same.
For me the guaranteed part of the shell to still be intact would be firewall trans tunnel, front chassis legs, front inner wheel arches. But is that enough to be a Tiger? In this thread and other websites its been agreed and seen that a heck of a lot of a car can be cut away from this guaranteed Tiger section and then replaced.
I started this thread somewhere in the middle of the two sides of the arguement. You are the first person thats picked up on what I really wanted out of this thread so I thank you. I would rather have a statement that says 'if this and this is conformed to in a restoration then it will be regarded as a Genuine Jenson Tiger'. This would be preferable to a designation of reshell.