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Post by Brad1380 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:12 pm

Has anyone had experiance of these chaps for engine work?

http://www.custompowerandpaint.co.uk/
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Post by Brad1380 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:15 pm

Anyone?....engines are not cheap!
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Post by redbaron » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:44 pm

Hi Brad,
not had any dealings with them myself,but what sort of spec and cubic inch engine size are you thinking about.?
Standard 260,289,302,or modified or a Stroker engine?

David

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Post by Brad1380 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:09 am

I was thinking of 302 upwards, depending on cost....horse power gets expensive quickly!
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Post by bigbob » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:54 pm

Real steel have a good reputation for providing a range of engines to varying specs depending on your wallet.

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Post by Brad1380 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:11 pm

I was going to get quotes from both, though Jez at CPP seems to be highly regarded by the cobra/ mustang brigade.
The trouble is when you start looking at engine specs its easy to end up looking at the higher end stuff like forged 347 units )
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Post by Tom_HRO260 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:04 am

Hi Brad, I can't profer any information regarding the UK based engine builders I'm afraid and in choosing a build spec, you'll no doubt find opinions vary greatly (which in itself seems a particularly strong Tiger-trait...)
For what it's worth, I sourced mine from a builder in the States mainly because the company had a strong reputation amongst the Cobra community, and to be fair, the AUD against the USD at the time was well placed. I don't know how the EUR/GBP is against the USD nor what you would expect to pay freight wise (I had a contact for airfreight so it's not a fair comparison), but a reputable US build might be worth considering. I've always thought Tomaselli's engine sounded good and strong in his youtube clips - perhaps he has some advice. I personally didn't go the stroker option but instead went a 4.125" bore. Something a bit different but I'm extremely happy with the results.
One thing is guaranteed as you've already stated - horsepower can get expensive. Personally though, a good build over outright HP is always going to be money better spent (in my opinion).
Good luck in the hunt, Tom

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Post by redbaron » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:41 am

Hi Brad,
As Bob has said in an earlier posting,Real Steel in the UK do have a good reputation for engines that they supply.
The downside to buying from the States for us would be the warranty,if it goes wrong long way to ship back :(
You say that you want a 302 above size engine,the next will be 331 Stroker unit,Real Steel do have these,maybe worth a look.
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Post by Brad1380 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:44 am

Can i ask a stupid question, whats the differeance between a 331 & a 347, is it bore or stroke?
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Post by redbaron » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:54 am

Brad,
the difference comes from the Stroker kit,i.e crankshaft and rods, to achieve the capacity increase.

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Post by bigbob » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:13 am

How about a supercharger? You can keep engine spec fairly normal & run 8psi safely. Loads of torque & 40% power increase from standard.
Alloy headed 302 with Rotrex blower = 490bhp & 570lb torque

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Post by Brad1380 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:23 pm

Bob if i was in the UK i would think seriously about that, but here its a no go due to insurance limitations.
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Post by bigbob » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:07 pm

How did Mad Max get away with it???

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Post by Brad1380 » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:08 pm

redbaron wrote:Brad,
the difference comes from the Stroker kit,i.e crankshaft and rods, to achieve the capacity increase.
I was just wondering if the 331 has an extra rebore in hand compared to the 347?
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Post by H, Sunny 65 » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:13 pm

Brad.
Its all done with shorter rod's. It's like magic, the bore stays the same.

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